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Old November 7th, 2009, 19:21
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Good question. And I do have a life, I just had a tooth pulled and do not feel well enough to be social tonight, I feel like a loser responding 5 seconds after you post!

Back to the subject. Well I'd cut the defense spending, we are not the world police nor can we afford to be. We need a well trained advanced military but not a large one with bases all around the world. That would save a large amount of money. I'd do away with the IRS, its too wasteful and unorganized. We need fair taxes, only a sales tax and nothing more. Then I would make certain drugs legal like marijuana, we can save billions stopping the war on drugs and make billions taxing the sales of marijuana.

Welfare needs to be changed, maybe not done away with right away but when it started private donating decreased a lot, and then in the 80's when there was the illusion it was being decreased private donations increased. Increase the general wealth of a nation you help the poor as long as government doesn't protect business and their ceo's and private donating will increase helping the needy. Welfare and those type of policies create slaves to the state, it only causes harm to people in the long run. Create wealth and jobs and we can grow the middle class.

Term limits of 8 years for all politicians. They spend the majority of their time once elected getting re-elected neglecting the people. And being a career politician lead to corruption.

No special treatment to anyone or any business. A government taking a pro-business stance can be just as bad as an anti-business stance.

One of the most important changes would be to end the Fed. Like I said credit expansion is the cause of the boom-bust cycle. Our dollar has lost over 95% of it's value since the Fed. The dollars value used to go up and down, it was possible it was worth more the day you died then when you were born before the Fed. But since then you are guaranteed it will be worth much less the day you die then when you are born. With interest rates being controlled by the market their would not be a constant need for risky investment by the majority to make up for the low interest rates. People leveraged to the degree they did because they could not get good returns from saving so they were forced to do risky leveraged investments.

The rest would take about a hundred pages to explain but I think I covered the big ideas. If anyone should be in favor of big government and socialism it would be me. At 21 I've been told I need to have most my teeth replaced with implants costing well over 40,000. My family and I have spent a large amount of money on medical bills so from a personal stand point I would probably benefit from socialism. I've been sick 6 weeks since August, so you can imagine my fear for the future and being successful with so many health problems making it hard to finish school, work and have any money left over. But it would hurt the economy overall and the majority of people in the long run.
Wow. Well first things first. Best of luck with your dental work. Also, that a 21 year-old could be so together intellectually and politically is not only hugely refreshing but downright intimidating. You've got a very bright future ahead of you.

We're advocating the same general philosophy, and while we disagree on a few issues (welfare and socialized medicine), I agree completely on everything else you outlined. I believe governments have very few absolute obligations to its citizens, but providing a safety net for people who cannot care for themselves is one of them.
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Hang myself that the Country may survive.
A noble gesture! I'm sure a few here have already FedEx'ed you some rope.

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The lawyers from Burger King will be serving you tomorrow with a complaint alleging defamation and libel. Dairy Queen will, however, pay for your defense.

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That you could even ask such a question speaks to your perspective on where solutions originate.
Indeed! Imagine the nerve of asking a hypothetical question. Such dastardly inquiries will surely lead to the wanton spread of Hypos and Theticism especially among the youth of America. Pretty soon some Hypos will be agitating for Hypo marriage, equal pay for hypothetical work and goodness knows what other outrages. And then the Thetics will petition to be recognized as a questioning minority and all hell will break loose in the nation's law schools. Truly FrankDC must be stopped before he asks again!
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A noble gesture! I'm sure a few here have already FedEx'ed you some rope.

The lawyers from Burger King will be serving you tomorrow with a complaint alleging defamation and libel. Dairy Queen will, however, pay for your defense.

Indeed! Imagine the nerve of asking a hypothetical question. Such dastardly inquiries will surely lead to the wanton spread of Hypos and Theticism especially among the youth of America. Pretty soon some Hypos will be agitating for Hypo marriage, equal pay for hypothetical work and goodness knows what other outrages. And then the Thetics will petition to be recognized as a questioning minority and all hell will break loose in the nation's law schools. Truly FrankDC must be stopped before he asks again!
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Old November 7th, 2009, 19:59
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Wow. Well first things first. Best of luck with your dental work. Also, that a 21 year-old could be so together intellectually and politically is not only hugely refreshing but downright intimidating. You've got a very bright future ahead of you.

We're advocating the same general philosophy, and while we disagree on a few issues (welfare and socialized medicine), I agree completely on everything else you outlined. I believe governments have very few absolute obligations to its citizens, but providing a safety net for people who cannot care for themselves is one of them.
Thank you! I enjoyed our debate! It's always fun to have someone mature to talk to about this subject without it ending up in an argument. It's clear we both want what is best for our fellow Americans.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 20:42
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Decaf.
Whatever you're drinking, have more!

Then again, nevermind. Interrupting your rushed and beckoning performances with digressive substance just isn't worth the pause in the spectacle.

Carry on, carry on!
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Interrupting your rushed and beckoning performances with digressive substance just isn't worth the pause in the spectacle.
You could always try adding non-digressive substance some day?
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