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#1 ·
I just watched Clint Eastwood - on Youtube - talk(sully his reputation?) at the RNC in Tampa.

This is all I saw....

 
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Disjointed, perhaps. Rambling, oh yes, but isn't that why it was disjointed? However, overall, it was funny, while making a very pertinent point about our current Administration and he did energize and bring the conference attendees to their feet! Clint Eastwood is still, and always will be...the consummate law enforcement tough guy or that 'bad-ass' cowboy with no name that we have all come to know and love, so well.
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I'm not Republican nor Democrat and with that said, the best discription was from another internet wag whose description I felt was most apt; "I thought it was a perfect symbol of the GOP: an old, angry, incoherent, rich white male arguing with his imaginary version of President Obama."

It's really such a shame he chose to lever his much loved-by-all legacy in such a partisan fashion.
 
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I'm not Republican nor Democrat and with that said, the best discription was from another internet wag whose description I felt was most apt; "I thought it was a perfect symbol of the GOP: an old, angry, incoherent, rich white male arguing with his imaginary version of President Obama."

It's really such a shame he chose to lever his much loved-by-all legacy in such a partisan fashion.
Isn't President Obama also responsible for fostering an imaginary version of President Obama?
 
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Isn't President Obama also responsible for fostering an imaginary version of President Obama?
Of course! He is a politician after all!

Sidebar; whenever Irish, British and US election time comes around, I always stick on my Yes, Minsister DVDs. Last night it was the Cabinet Reshuffle/Job in Brussels episode!

Spin is such an interesting mechanism in politics!
 
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I'm not Republican nor Democrat and with that said, the best discription was from another internet wag whose description I felt was most apt; "I thought it was a perfect symbol of the GOP: an old, angry, incoherent, rich white male arguing with his imaginary version of President Obama."

It's really such a shame he chose to lever his much loved-by-all legacy in such a partisan fashion.
Couldn't disagree more: The first quote is a typical media 'commentariat' reaction to anyone in Hollywood who has the temerity to not be a liberal Democrat.

I also don't understand your comment about leveraging his legacy: Is the man not entitled to his political views and to endorse a candidate? This is a pretty frequent practice on both sides of the political divide in the US (and I would bet a fair amount of money that Obama has picked up a lot more endorsements from the entertainment industry - Republican is a dirty word in Hollywood). Or is it that you rather admire Eastwood and his legacy, but just don't like his politics? If the latter, fine, but don't beat around the bush!
 
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Of course! He is a politician after all!

Sidebar; whenever Irish, British and US election time comes around, I always stick on my Yes, Minsister DVDs. Last night it was the Cabinet Reshuffle/Job in Brussels episode!

Spin is such an interesting mechanism in politics!
It is indeed. And as a hobbyist wordsmith myself I rather appreciate the finely turned phrase. Yes (Prime) Minister was a delightful show. The Thick of It and even The New Statesman were not bad, either.

Spin is the dazzling ability to tell someone to '**** off' in such a manner as they actually look forward to the journey. However when a person is all spin with no tangible substance and in a position of real power then this is a worry. Modern politicians trouble me, all of a muchness in soundbites and hairstyles.
 
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- now that strikes me as really risking a golden legacy.
This.

Don't think I've heard of the other shows you mention.

I was recently on a flight where Yes Minister was one of the options and I settled myself down to thoroughly enjoy the show...but sadly while I recognised the genius of the scriptwriting and the super-fine acting performances, it was just too dated to enjoy...so I've left the rest as a happy memory.
 
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Aren't they doing a remake around the Coalition - now that strikes me as really risking a golden legacy.

I always thought In The Thick of It / In the Loop was the natural successor to Yes, Minister (but never liked it as much).
I believe they are. Can't wait.

I also really liked those two shows. I felt they really captured the essence and outputs of the Blair/Campbell relationship and the internals of the New Labour government perfects.
 
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Your friends make jokes about telling the President to "Go F*&K himself"?

Then again, doesnt surprise me that a dolt like you finds that funny.
A dolt like me??

The joke was that empty chair Obama told Clint to tell Mitt to go, um, screw himself and that Obama was becoming more like Joe "Big Fn Deal" potty mouth Biden!!

Don't fret; in a few weeks your classy friends will dig up Richard Widmark to do his now infamous Paul Ryan impersonation!!

 
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Or is it that you rather admire Eastwood and his legacy, but just don't like his politics? If the latter, fine, but don't beat around the bush!
I didn't think I did! Either way, I'll be the first to admit that my first couple of posts here were intended to be tabloid and somewhat satirical in nature. Well in my mind anyway. But then you can be the judge of that.

Wrt, Clint Eastwood - my point simply is this. He is/was loved by most all for myriad great movies and his persona in said movies was something most could associate with in a real sense, regardless of partisan conviction. Of which is something our friends in the US buy into - as evidenced in their politics - in a way that we tend not to this side of the pond. We are not as intensly partisan, in my opinion.

So, for years Mr. Eastwood never used his fame and on-screen persona to endorse a politician until now. His Superbowl ad, I should ad, was something all sides could buy into - the great American way. Today, however, he finds his fans divided and his his reputation compromised - by those fans(to quote Jim Hacker!) 'on the other side'.
 
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I didn't think I did! Either way, I'll be the first to admit that my first couple of posts here were intended to be tabloid and somewhat satirical in nature. Well in my mind anyway. But then you can be the judge of that.

Wrt, Clint Eastwood - my point simply is this. He is/was loved by most all for myriad great movies and his persona in said movies was something most could associate with in a real sense, regardless of partisan conviction. Of which is something our friends in the US buy into - as evidenced in their politics - in a way that we tend not to this side of the pond. We are not as intensly partisan, in my opinion.

So, for years Mr. Eastwood never used his fame and on-screen persona to endorse a politician until now. His Superbowl ad, I should ad, was something all sides could buy into - the great American way. Today, however, he finds his fans divided and his his reputation compromised - by those fans(to quote Jim Hacker!) 'on the other side'.
The last paragraph is not right: Eastwood has a long pedigree in politics (he has even been elected as Mayor of Carmel, CA, although I don't know whether that was as a Republican or an independent; I think he may have endorsed the odd Democrat as well). He endorsed McCain in 2008.

For my part, I do see a big difference between saying "I don't like Eastwood - he's a Republican" and "I don't like Eastwood - I'm not a Republican or a Democrat, but it's a shame he's adopted a political position and made himself a partisan figure".

On the latter, I do think it is unreasonable to suggest that just because someone's been in the public eye (in a non-political field) they need to forswear expressing political views.

On the former, I don't find someone's politics get in the way of how much I enjoy their work. Coming at this another way, Martin Sheen's politics are very different to mine (and he is very passionate and public in his political views). But it didn't stop me from enjoying the West Wing.
 
#23 ·
The joke was that empty chair Obama told Clint to tell Mitt to go, um, screw himself and that Obama was becoming more like Joe "Big Fn Deal" potty mouth Biden!!

Don't fret; in a few weeks your classy friends will dig up Richard Widmark to do his now infamous Paul Ryan impersonation!!
Your reference is about as relevant as Clint Eastwood.

Stay Classy RNC.
 
#24 ·
All I saw was that there was a yawning 'prol' gap between the back of his shirt collar and his suit jacket....there you go, AAAC has addled my brain....:p
To spin: The very astute expert, Haffman, observed, "there was a yawning 'prol' gap between the back of his [Mr. Eastwood's] shirt collar and his suit jacket." Always modest, Mr. Haffman attributed AAAC as helping to sharpen his already formidable powers of observation.
 
#25 ·
Other than the slightly wider lapels, that show has not really dated at all! Certainly not in sentiment and tone anyway. Offices might be more contemporary and PC talk, well, more PC. But I can assure you that the machinations of government and civil service are broadly still the same.
I meant the production, acting style, sets...that kind of thing, dated enough to make me cringe in places (and yes the clothes) ...but each to their own

As to the subject matter, politics and bureaucracy haven't changed much...and neither has human nature
 
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