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I don't know how well received this thread will be, or even if it is allowed.

Does anyone have any thoughts/comments on the presidential debates for this election year, the first debate being tonight?
 

Big T

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We're damned if we do, damned if we don't.

I watched for 45 to 50 minutes, then put on a "Hogans Heroes" DVD. Couldn't tell the difference between the two. I don't want to degrade a very fine forum by dipping into politics, but I bet all here, have heads spinning this morning.
 

iam.mike

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Yeah, it was certainly a hot mess. Too many interruptions, both talking over one another. Lack of substance, etc.

Poor Chris Wallace. Not sure how any moderator could have handled that situation any different/better.

Both losers in that debate for sure.

I will say one thing though -- I really don't like it when anyone says "shut up" to someone else. There are 100 ways to communicate that sentiment, without using those words.

I hope the VP debates will be more civil.
 

Lucido

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Yeah, it was certainly a hot mess. Too many interruptions, both talking over one another. Lack of substance, etc.

Poor Chris Wallace. Not sure how any moderator could have handled that situation any different/better.

Both losers in that debate for sure.

I will say one thing though -- I really don't like it when anyone says "shut up" to someone else. There are 100 ways to communicate that sentiment, without using those words.

I hope the VP debates will be more civil.
It was the lack of civility that struck me also. That and the childish name-calling and schoolyard insults from both. The standard has degraded to the point that it almost seems fantastical that candidates once quoted Seneca (or was it Cicero? ;)) in debates as the eloquent Mr. Reagan did in '84.
 

Tiger

Advanced Member
Agreed; another casualty due to the distortions by states of the electoral system as delineated in Article Two Section Two of the Constitution, and by the grip the two major parties have on the entire process.
I apologize - should have referenced Article Two Section One!
 

challer

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Yeah, it was certainly a hot mess. Too many interruptions, both talking over one another. Lack of substance, etc.

Poor Chris Wallace. Not sure how any moderator could have handled that situation any different/better.

Both losers in that debate for sure.

I will say one thing though -- I really don't like it when anyone says "shut up" to someone else. There are 100 ways to communicate that sentiment, without using those words.

I hope the VP debates will be more civil.
I would offer that Wallace was the worst of the three. Not only did he chose a format which was guaranteed to cause turmoil, he could not/would not control either of the other two. And he engaged in the debating.
 
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