Roger

Super Member
Thanks for your explanation and, in fact, the whole thread, Doctor; it's precisely the kind that makes this such a great forum and source of learning. One little point about the button format: I've seen references to "6 X 3" and "6 X 2" to indicate that a coat has 6 buttons with the 3 (or 2) on the right side actually fastening via the buttonholes. Maybe another way of stating the "6 with 3 actually buttoning" is "6 buttoning to 6", as you have put it. And "6 buttoning to 2" would become "6 buttoning to 4" using your system. Do I have this right or am I just confused after a long day?

Vancouver
 

Doctor Damage

Connoisseur
I woke up late last night realizing that I had forgotten two very important parts of the 'definition' of polo coats I had posted yesterday: "...(5) patch pockets, and (6) turn-up cuffs."

Roger, I have no idea how to call those buttoning systems, I simply use what I am comfortable with. I have the sinking feeling that there is no hard-and-fast system, since every book I have on men's clothing describes it differently. Someone like Manton needs to be consulted; perhaps we can start a thread on this...yes, I will dig up some diagrams and we can consult the senior AAAC members.

DD
 

Michaelgmd

New Member
I disagree with the comment that overcoats shouldn't be luxurious. And I think that the Polo Coat is the most elegant type of overcoat. It can be dressed up or down especially when it's camel or camel colored.

and I put my money where my mouth is! I recently purchased 8 yards of absoultely virgin vicuna that hasn't seen the light of day since 1949. It was discovered in an attic of one of the grandchildren of the mill owner. Unlike the modern vicuna, this has slight gradations of shading.

Mike Cohen of Oxxford has graciously agreed to use some of my material to make a coat -- and the choice was for a classic American-style Polo.
It will be a real treasure when it's done and I should have enough fabric left for another one if and when this one wears out!
 

Harris

Advanced Member
quote:Originally posted by Michaelgmd

I disagree with the comment that overcoats shouldn't be luxurious. And I think that the Polo Coat is the most elegant type of overcoat. It can be dressed up or down especially when it's camel or camel colored.

and I put my money where my mouth is! I recently purchased 8 yards of absoultely virgin vicuna that hasn't seen the light of day since 1949. It was discovered in an attic of one of the grandchildren of the mill owner. Unlike the modern vicuna, this has slight gradations of shading.

Mike Cohen of Oxxford has graciously agreed to use some of my material to make a coat -- and the choice was for a classic American-style Polo.
It will be a real treasure when it's done and I should have enough fabric left for another one if and when this one wears out!
Wow. Color me impressed. I've wanted to have a polo coat custom made for some time. The polo coat is that rare breed of clothing that's simultaneously (formally) elegant and casual. Cheers, Harris
 

kitonbrioni

Honors Member
quote:Originally posted by Michaelgmd

I disagree with the comment that overcoats shouldn't be luxurious. And I think that the Polo Coat is the most elegant type of overcoat. It can be dressed up or down especially when it's camel or camel colored.

and I put my money where my mouth is! I recently purchased 8 yards of absoultely virgin vicuna that hasn't seen the light of day since 1949. It was discovered in an attic of one of the grandchildren of the mill owner. Unlike the modern vicuna, this has slight gradations of shading.

Mike Cohen of Oxxford has graciously agreed to use some of my material to make a coat -- and the choice was for a classic American-style Polo.
It will be a real treasure when it's done and I should have enough fabric left for another one if and when this one wears out!
Please post pics of the fabric and the overcoat when is done.
 

Tomasso

Advanced Member
quote:Originally posted by Tomasso

quote:Originally posted by Doctor Damage

Here's more tennis players, this time French ones. The one wearing the polo coat is Jean Borotra. Every member of AAAC should be able to identify the player third from the left in the first photo.

The Four Musketeers who included the "Crocodile".


Rene"The Crocodile"Lacoste
 

rojo

Super Member
quote:Originally posted by steedappeal

Terrific photos!

Did anyone happen to see the J. Press DB polo coat this year? Any comments?
Yes. I wanted one like nobody's business, but I can't afford such an extravagance (not when I already have a closet full of outerwear) until I sell my house.
 

Tom Buchanan

Super Member
quote:Originally posted by steedappeal

Terrific photos!

Did anyone happen to see the J. Press DB polo coat this year? Any comments?
Yes, I liked it. In fact, I started an earlier thread asking for others' opinions. It is a bit darker than the camelhair I am used to seeing. How do people enjoy the coat?
 

stylestudent

Active Member with Corp. Privileges
For those of us looking for an authentic camel hair polo coat as described by Manton (including the envelope patch pockets, the buttoned half-belt in back, and the cuffed sleeve), try H Herzfeld on 57th Street between Park and Lex. $1,695 made in Canada. Have two in stock in larger sizes (42 and 44) but will make one up in your size at no additional charge. Happened to be looking for this item too.

Regards,

Steven
 

Doctor Damage

Connoisseur
I see that Orvis is offering a nice polo coat, now on sale. Unfortunately, it only comes in "letter" sizes, but if you match the statistical average then this could be a great deal.

It looks the part...



DD
 

upr_crust

Connoisseur
As shown below, BB does (or at least did) . . .

. . sell a polo coat in the traditional style (patch pockets and half-belted, in a below-the-knee length - I'm 5' 10", for reference, and the coat is a 44 regular). I believe that they sold this style this year as well, in camel's hair, as well as a single-breasted version.

 

Orgetorix

Honors Member
I picked up one of the J Press DB polo coats, NWT, on Ebay a few weeks ago for about $20. It's great--traditional in every respect, and very warm. The seller didn't include shots of the interior labels, so I didn't know what I had bought until it arrived. It is cut to button all three, though the interior button is at the middle row.
 

Angrik

New Member
I'm not exactly sure how to post a photo, so I'll attach a link from Fedora Lounge of a photo of the late actor Nigel Bruce in a camel hair polo coat. It's a pretty elegant looking coat. It would look even better in a cream color.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=11822&page=3

Scroll down to #34.

There's also a photo of Tom Hanks wearing a polo coat as "Mike Sullivan" in "Road to Perdition." #31

And others polo coats as well.
 

Doctor Damage

Connoisseur
Angrik said:
There's also a photo of Tom Hanks wearing a polo coat as "Mike Sullivan" in "Road to Perdition." #31

And others polo coats as well.
Nice photo of Nigel Bruce. Looks like older polo coats were intended to roll the upper buttons.

If you post on Fedora Lounge, for heaven's sake please inform them of the difference between a "polo coat" and a "trenchcoat". For that matter, please explain that the word trenchcoat does NOT include any outerwear that reaches to or below the knees...

DD
 

Doctor Damage

Connoisseur
Finally located some photos of polo coats being worn as they started, i.e. as warm wear for polo players in between chukkas. Both photos are from 1939, the first is of Tommy Hitchcock Jr. (note towel worn as scarf) and the second is an undentified polo player.



 
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