I'm the last person who would criticize Ralph Lauren clothing, as I wore nothing but RL for many years; but, what I see here would not be to my liking. That fit is just not right for grown men. Good old Tom Moore ( the mature gentleman in the Polo ads of the eighties) would laugh. Are they selling this stuff? To whom? As a former retailer, I can say that stores would be screaming if they had a business in Ralph's clothing and it fit this way. It's window dressing....literally.