Shaver

Suspended
The implicit assumption of this post, being that homosexuality is a negative and something to be avoided, is distasteful.

The assertion elsewhere that pink is 'for little girls' is also offensive.

I presume that members appreciate that many of their esteemed associates on this forum will enjoy a multitudinous range of sexual preferances?
You've got to be kidding. I'll go back to the pre-1972 DSM.

Yes, my son rooting around the lower intestine of another man is perfectly natural?????? I have some negative attitudes about that.
I am not kidding, allow me to assure you. Further and in respect of your reference to the pre 1972 edition of the DSM, such outmoded and ludicrous beliefs are no longer granted scientific status and thus not to be found in modern editions. (A lot of other fallacious nonsense is contained within the latest edition, but that is another matter entirely). Characterising a sexual act in such a base manner is simply facile and can equally be applied to heterosexual intercourse; 'rooting around in the vagina'.

I consider that you have taken this argument beyond the already dubious territory from which it commenced and are fast approaching an area which I trust will not be tolerated by the moderators. A passionate debate is one thing, unsubstantiated and hateful commentary quite another.
 
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VictorRomeo

Super Member
I consider that you have taken this argument beyond the already dubious territory from which it commenced and are fast approaching an area which I trust will not be tolerated by the moderators. A passionate debate is one thing, unsubstantiated and hateful commentary quite another.
I am in full agreement with you Shaver. I swore I'd not get sucked into this thread but the bigoted statement above provokes me to ask an open question on tolerance and the tolerances of such language on AAAC....

"Gays out?"
 

CuffDaddy

Connoisseur
I just remembered No Green on Thursday

https://www.osireion.com/AlwaysWearGreen.html
Another "coded" message I'll ignore. Besides, that website makes very little sense:

"Wearing green on Thursdays is not like wearing an AIDS or Breast Cancer ribbon, for others need not know what the green stands for or why we wear it. By intentionally wearing green on Thursdays, we walk as a silent testimony and bring into the world consciousness, a coming world without persecution, without hunger and poverty and disease and crime."


What? So the point is that nobody else knows what they're doing, and what they're doing amounts to testimony and raises consciousness? Seems mutually contradictory to me!

At any rate, I simple refuse to concede any portion of the color wheel to someone else. I wonder if this attitude kept me from gaining admittance to The Crips? ;P
 

CuffDaddy

Connoisseur
Characterising a sexual act in such a base manner is simply facile and can equally be applied to heterosexual intercourse; 'rooting around in the vagina'.
Good point, Shaver. One need only recall the horror and/or revulsion that many children experience when they first learn "the facts of life" to understand that, out of context, almost any sexual act is objectively grotesque. There's a reason that a popular euphemism for heterosexual intercourse is "bumping uglies."

Of course, I wholeheartedly agree with the other sentiments. I am very happy that we are rapidly approaching the time when unambiguous animosity towards homosexuality is seen as no more rational or socially-acceptable than overt racism. Attitudes on this point are highly correlated with age, and a few more years will resolve the point.
 

L-feld

Elite Member
Another "coded" message I'll ignore. Besides, that website makes very little sense:
"Wearing green on Thursdays is not like wearing an AIDS or Breast Cancer ribbon, for others need not know what the green stands for or why we wear it. By intentionally wearing green on Thursdays, we walk as a silent testimony and bring into the world consciousness, a coming world without persecution, without hunger and poverty and disease and crime."
You know what's funny is that a bunch of lawyers at my firm (myself included) do that. Except instead of wearing green, we wear seersucker. :biggrin2:
 

eagle2250

Connoisseur/Curmudgeon Emeritus - Moderator
For Sunday services this AM I'll be pairing my BB pink OCBD with a blue/white seersucker suit, all in combination with my brown and white AE McLain Spectators. Last time I did something like this no one questioned my sexual orientation, but one of my fellow congregants addressed me as Colonel Sanders! :eek:
 

StephenRG

Honors Member
Why straight men shouldn't wear pink shirts: women like men in pink shirts so if all other straight men don't wear pink shirts, I'll have an advantage.
 

Tiger

Elite Member
Sorry even if Pink is not gay its too much of a statement. Thats a color a man just should not wear, and if you do then your pretty much telling everyone that your too out of the box. Far out enough to perhaps experiment with homosexuality, not that you wont, but your open to it. Atleast thats what Pink says to me.
Gosh, I need to overhaul my wardrobe. Had no idea my pink OCBD shirts were telling the world that I was open to "experimenting with homosexuality." What about my lavender shirts - could that be a signal of openness to bisexuality? Need to dump the light green shirts, too - clearly a solicitation for polygamy. For future reference, what's the color associated with beastiality? One can never be too careful in the sartorial jungle...

A while back, my wife and I were visiting family in another state. We were discussing entertainment options for the next day, and we suggested going to a local (world-class) museum. My brother-in-law (a nearly sixty-year old devotee of the trucker's cap, enormous waist and "short shorts," t-shirts, and ill-fitting jeans with dangerously high-caliber button enclosure due to inordinate cheeseburger consumption) immediately scoffed at the notion, because after all, "only gays go to museums." Did Leonardo and Vermeer wear pink?

But back to Chris Liu's post above - is he aware that in some circles, chronic absence of the apostrophe in contractions is an "out of the box" statement that indicates one is open to "sexual experimentation"?

Bottom line, fellow heterosexuals: avoid poor punctuation and pink shirts at all costs!
 

L-feld

Elite Member
Gosh, I need to overhaul my wardrobe. Had no idea my pink OCBD shirts were telling the world that I was open to "experimenting with homosexuality." What about my lavender shirts - could that be a signal of openness to bisexuality? Need to dump the light green shirts, too - clearly a solicitation for polygamy. For future reference, what's the color associated with beastiality? One can never be too careful in the sartorial jungle...
Here is your answer...



 
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Tiger

Elite Member
As disgusting and vile a post as I've ever seen, L-feld. How could you possibly think this is forum-appropriate?
 
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cdavant

Elite Member
Agree this is not appropriate for this forum, but Tiger did sort of ask the question and L-feld did sort of answer it. I try to post links so those who are offended don't have to stare at things as they watch things unfold. And while parts are certainly not appropriate here, some of it is pretty damn funny. I took the liberty of forwarding it to friends of mine, a gay couple, who not only were not offended but loved it--and I've already seen it back as they forward it to various social networks that send it on to those who are not easily offended.

You guys don't think I actually come up with all my odd humerous comments unassisted?
 

Tiger

Elite Member
Agree this is not appropriate for this forum, but Tiger did sort of ask the question and L-feld did sort of answer it.
Did I really "ask the question"? Wasn't it clear that I was being tongue-in-cheek, caustic, and mocking some of the ludicrous points made by a handful of posters?

When did AAAC become Plato's Retreat?
 

Mox

Active Member with Corp. Privileges
Just shout, "It's man-salmon, dammit!" whenever someone calls it pink. Problem solved.

The only "color" I know of that's used consistently within the gay community itself is rainbow.

I don't have a concern about being mistaken for gay unless it's a potential lady-friend, and generally that's pretty easy to sort out. I do see style as a form of communication, however, so taking your audience into consideration is part of its nature.

I no longer use the phrase "to beg a question" unless I'm absolutely sure the receiver will understand the phrase. The original meaning was to avoid the question, not to ask for one, as in to beg off.

"Honey, did you take the trash out?"
"We need new trashcans."
"Yes dear, but that begs the question."

For the most part, we are only going to be concerned with the reception of those within our circle or target audience. Style is a broadcast, so I see the original post as asking the larger question if we are concerned about how this broadcast is received by bystanders. I think we can even take "gay" out of the equation.
 
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Flanderian

Connoisseur
For Sunday services this AM I'll be pairing my BB pink OCBD with a blue/white seersucker suit, all in combination with my brown and white AE McLain Spectators. Last time I did something like this no one questioned my sexual orientation, but one of my fellow congregants addressed me as Colonel Sanders! :eek:
Snazzy! :icon_cheers:

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I've got my eye on you!

But should I wear something similar, I have no doubt all the lovely young women would flock to me and think, "What a nice old man!" :icon_peaceplease:
 

L-feld

Elite Member
As disgusting and vile a post as I've ever seen, L-feld. How could you possibly think this is forum-appropriate?
Surely I'm not the only person on this forum for whom an interest in clothing overlaps with an interest in semiotics.

Hanky code is one of the most academically scrutinized parts of gay culture, in addition to being one of the most amusing.

And besides, this entire thread is inappropriate.
 

Tiger

Elite Member
Surely I'm not the only person on this forum for whom an interest in clothing overlaps with an interest in semiotics. Hanky code is one of the most academically scrutinized parts of gay culture, in addition to being one of the most amusing. And besides, this entire thread is inappropriate.
Your "semiotic chart" was packed with pornographic references, L-feld. Why not make use of subtlety, nuance, or veiled remarks? Can't believe those of us with wives (not to mention children) would feel comfortable having them read that post...

Agreed; much of this thread bordered on the inappropriate. That's a poor excuse to ratchet up the disgust factor exponentially.
 

blue suede shoes

Super Member
This thread sure has evolved! Kiltie loafers are gay? I've worn them for years. Next someone will say that saddle shoes are gay. I have several pairs. How about those Belgian Shoes? Are they gay? I guess I should stay away from them as a precaution so that people won't fantasize and gossip about my sexual practices.

Getting back to the original question and post, which I think is very appropriate for this forum as it discusses acceptable colors for the business world, I will have to agree with the original poster's assessment of a man wearing pink in the US. Simply put, pink is not appropriate for men's business attire in the US, and there is a much wider range of acceptable colors, including pink, for men's dress shirts in the UK and continental Europe.

About 20 years ago I was sitting in an attorney's waiting room waiting for a real estate settlement. I was wearing a pink OCBD shirt. One of the principals (buyer or seller) in the transaction who was sitting close to me in the small waiting room got on the phone and said to someone in a very condescending tone, "I'm here with one of those", while staring and gesturing at my pink shirt. I never asked as I don't intrude into people's conversations, but I assume that the comment had to do with the discussion we are having in this thread. I would have expected such a comment from trailer trash, or a skinhead, but the man who made the comment has three degrees, including a PhD, from ivy league universities.

The lack of social and business ettiquete, and the rudeness of supposedly well educated people in America never ceases to amaze me, even though I was born and raised in the USA.

I've only had one pink shirt in my entire life, and I just happened to be wearing it that day. I won't be buying any more unless I turn gay.

Not too long after that Kodak moment, a girl who I had dated for a short time took the liberty to go through my closet and tell me what was appropriate for me to wear. As she held the pink OCBD on a hangar, she said, "don't ever wear a pink shirt". I told her that the shirt was white when I bought it, but it had been laundered with a cheap red t-shirt. She simply rolled her eyes and said "men don't wear pink shirts".
 

eagle2250

Connoisseur/Curmudgeon Emeritus - Moderator
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I hope we can all agree that Bigots are distasteful in whatever form they may appear and wherever they may be found! Should any of you gentlemen wish to argue the point, do so through PM. Otherwise, move on. :(
 
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