Tradly Casual Foul Weather Gear...

Barrister

Active Member with Corp. Privileges
Gentlemen, my all-purpose foul weather jacket from my college days is no longer serviceable. I've held on to it as long as I could, but alas, the ripstop nylon (think something along the lines of North Face, etc.) has ripped in places, it seems to be losing some of its water repellancy, and it's just time for it to be replaced.

Luckily for me, I have a birthday and Christmas coming up, and a new piece of casual foul weather gear is at the top of my list (I already have the standard tan, single breasted raincoat for wear with a suit, etc.). I'm looking for something I can wear with khakis, jeans (on the very few occasions when I wear them), cords, and maybe even flannels occasionally. I'd prefer something that gives me the option of a zip-in/out liner for cooler weather and something that is very water/wind resistant (I'm in NC, so it doesn't get all that cold for all that long in the winter, but it does get cool and we have our share of nasty, freezing-rain type days in January and February). And, of course, I want it to fit nicely into my growing trad wardrobe. I'd like to avoid another brightly colored North Face, Columbia, LL Bean, etc. number.

My first thought was, of course, a Barbour, but I'm not that familiar with their product range and didn't know which models would best fit my needs (I read a lot of good stuff on this board about the Beafort, and also occasionally the Bedale. Any model or color suggestions?). I also didn't know what I should expect to spend on such an item (it looks like somewhere between $250-$350 is the going rate) and if there were particular merchants from whom I could get a better deal.

Sorry to ramble on. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday evening. Hmmm, come to think of it, those old Bean Boots are looking like they may need replacing as well. Well, now I know what #2 on my list will be!
Regards,
B
 

Topsider

Honors Member
I don't think you can go wrong with the Barbour Beaufort in green. Find a local store that carries them, if possible, so you can examine one for yourself and find out what size you need.
 

Barrister

Active Member with Corp. Privileges
Intersting...

I have in its LL Bean incarnation of ten years ago. Still going strong.

Patrick, do you know if Bean still makes such an item? A quick browse through their website seems to indicate that they do not.

Thanks,
B
 

Barrister

Active Member with Corp. Privileges
Sizing...

As far as Barbour's go, how does their sizing work? Is it a XL, L, M, or 48R, 46L, type of thing or is it some type of weird EU metric stuff?
Thanks again for all the advice.
 

AlanC

Sartorial Sultan<br> Moderator, Trad Forum
You might take a look at the John Partridge waxed jackets on Sierra Trading as an alternative to Barbour.
 

jamgood

Elite Member
Re: Barbour
Check the SALES Forum in a few days. Can't say more here or Malinda'll whack my knuckles with a ruler and red X my forehead.
 

vwguy

Honors Member
You can check my thread on country Trad to see the Beaufort I got a few weeks back from here: 35% off list price which is quite the deal. Sizing is 40, 42, 44, etc.

Brian
 

farney

New Member
The difference between the Beaufort and the Bedale stated above are correct, I would add that you may consider the Bedale slightly dressier/more suited to the city.

Also, I have the Filson Oil Cloth Weekender Coat, model 1442N, I believe, and love it. However, I also hunt some and actually use the game pocket. It is a little bit more "rugged" looking in my opinion, and I'm hoping to pick up a Bedale to wear to work and the Filson on the weekends. Some may think this makes me crazy. In any case, I can't say enough about the Filson and their service (I used to work for a retailer for both Filson and Barbour).

One final note regarding sizing: Barbour states that their coats are cut so that if you order your regular suit size it will fit fine over that suit. This works for some and others find this a bit snug and order one size up.
 

paper clip

Elite Member
I love the look and the tradition of Barbour jackets, but they do not seem to offer them in talls. I can't stand outerwear in which the sleeves are too short.

I have two field coats from LE overstocks. One khaki and one navy, which I just got with the removable vest-thingy they offered last year. I think each coat was $30.
 

Topsider

Honors Member
You can check my thread on country Trad to see the Beaufort I got a few weeks back from here: 35% off list price which is quite the deal.

Wow...it is, indeed. No tax (in VA, anyway) and free shipping, too. That's the cheapest I've ever seen them. Good find!
 

tripreed

Elite Member
The Bedale and Beufort are essentialy the same jacket the only difference being, the Beufort features a zipperd game pocket in the rear and the Bedale, buttoned double side vents.

Not entirely true. The Bedale is shorter than the Beaufort. While the Beaufort hits, I believe, around mid-thigh, the Bedale is more suit-jacket length. This is ideal if you are short, like me, so that the jacket does not appear to be disproportionally large.

As far as Barbour's go, how does their sizing work? Is it a XL, L, M, or 48R, 46L, type of thing or is it some type of weird EU metric stuff?
Thanks again for all the advice.

The sizing is basically just your chest size, and it seems be pretty close to jacket sizes (i.e.-if you wear a 42 in a suit jacket, get a 42 Barbour).

You can find some on Sierra Trading Post for good prices, or you can always go the Ebay route (this is how I got my Bedale), though it can sometimes be more difficult to sellers that are in the US (which I think could keep things from becoming more complicated than the ought to be). There are other websites that people on here have recommended.

In terms of color, green is always a classic, but I do think that the brown looks good. See this old thread about one of the Trad forum's members to check one out "in action."
 

vwguy

Honors Member
Wow...it is, indeed. No tax (in VA, anyway) and free shipping, too. That's the cheapest I've ever seen them. Good find!

It is made in England in case you're wondering. Barbour discontinued the models w/ snap in liners and FTC bought a bunch for a good price.

Brian
 

bigCat

Honors Member
I love the look and the tradition of Barbour jackets, but they do not seem to offer them in talls. I can't stand outerwear in which the sleeves are too short.

I have two field coats from LE overstocks. One khaki and one navy, which I just got with the removable vest-thingy they offered last year. I think each coat was $30.

Barbour offers sleeve alterations, on waxed cotton garments. For the other jackets (normally sized S.M.L etc.) sleeve alterations are not possible. Cost about $65.
 
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