Found the article - I was right. Those bucks are from 1977. So, the perfect photo of what new bucks should end up looking like!I don't know. The place where I found the pic identified them as new "scuffed" ones - but as you can tell, I was quite suspicious. As per the Esquire article, new scuffed ones were sold, but I couldn't find a definitive pic of them.
Great find. A fun, if a bit verbose, article. So, the hunt for an example of an Ivy era new buck pre-scuffed (as per Esquire) continues.Found the article - I was right. Those bucks are from 1977. So, the perfect photo of what new bucks should end up looking like!
I personally enjoyed this one, as well....Great find. A fun, if a bit verbose, article. So, the hunt for an example of an Ivy era new buck pre-scuffed (as per Esquire) continues.
Awesome. It so reminds me of my similar experiences at Texas Commerce, the Houston equivalent of the Morgan Guaranty experience. I helped the Marketing Division write the dress guide, probably about thirty five pages with embossed cover. How I wish I had kept a copy! I also remember the blazer and flannels on Saturday morning. Now TCB is part of JP Morgan/Chase and far less formal, as are most banks. As I was a lawyer I interacted with our outside counsel a lot and observed those exact tribal distinctions. Friends at Baker & Botts encouraged me to flaunt the very dress guide I had helped write and wear pink shirts and cordovan tassel loafers. It amused my CEO who was never seen in anything other than Oxxford suits, white shirts, black Church’s bals, and Hermès ties.I personally enjoyed this one, as well....
You're so right - great piece.I personally enjoyed this one, as well....
I have been ruminating on this one, specifically the reference to the “Trad side of the house.” Trad means different things to different people. If by Trad you mean those who were building their sense of style in the forties and fifties, even the very early sixties, I agree that those people tended to put oxfords with suits, but if you move into the mid-sixties and beyond, that was pretty much out the window. Although I learned a lot from my father’s mode of dress in the fifties, my style was forged in high school in the sixties, and our idea of dress shoes was Alden for Brooks tassels. My father went his whole life without wearing a tassel loafer, but he rocked the Alden walkers and NSTs as well as black plain toe oxfords with dark suits.You're so right - great piece.
I started on Wall Street about the same time as that gentleman, but I went into trading not investment banking (trading, at that time, was for up-from-the-street kids / investment banking took connections and pedigree) with my first firm being at 120 Broadway (the first office building in NYC to take up a full city block - it is an enormous building ⇩)
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My second firm was at 14 Wall Street ⇩
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Both firms were old-line Wall Street establishments rich in tradition. And at both, the young guys like me were, like Reggie, incredibly focused on getting the clothes correct.
To his shoe comments, I was advised by the older guys to buy a black tassel loafer. I bought the Florsheim "Royal Imperial" for $120 (no way in the world I would ever have told my dad what I paid for them) that looked like these ⇩ (mine survived until 2012 as they were disintegrating at that point). Back then, Florsheim made a quality shoe and $120 was a lot of money especially to a kid just starting out.
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It's funny how on the Trad side of the house, sometimes, tassel loafers, especially with suits for work, are looked on with a bit of suspicion by the Ivy guys. I have no doubt that they are right about what was "acceptable" in Ivy's heyday, but in the '80s on Wall Street - they were one of "the" shoes for the young guys.
One more connect to the author, in the early '90s, I was hired by a firm that was located in the building he mentioned - One Liberty Plaza - that had a Brooks Brothers store on its ground floor. When trading was slow and I needed to clear my head, I'd strolled through (and spend too much money in) that store.
I am on my second pair of those and agree with your comments.Today's footwear choice is a pair of LL Bean's Bison hide Allagash loafers. I purchased these things, on sale, for $67 a couple of years back and have worn them hard sine then. They are light on the foot, feature a very comfortable insole and have so far, proven to be virtually indestructible. I'm impressed with the very real value this inexpensive pair of shoes represents.