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Discussion in 'Andy's Trad Forum' started by Doctor Damage, Feb 17, 2006.
One more thing Chris -
I never visited the Squire shop either. Any memories?
In the case of trad, "polish" might actually be defined as a lack of polish.
Costly thy habit as thy purse can buy,
But not express'd in fancy; rich, not gaudy;
For the apparel oft proclaims the man.
And often not ironed
The whole 'not polished & not ironed' thing is a really good point - I have to work hard not to over-iron my BDs or shine up my loafers too often.
It's an odd thing... working hard to make the look appear casual.
And I'm sure I still get it wrong and look too neat.
You either love these clothes or you don't. And if you do then looking after them too well is a big temptation.
Don't forget frayed, collars and cuffs on OCBD, boxers, cuffs and pockets on khakis, the worn edges of corduroy. There is no such thing as a worn out sock, as socks are seldom worn - LOL
Back on topic: RFK
Sorry I forget that we're doing topics here. (I'm new to all this)
Wonderfully lived-in faces those Kennedys sport...
An important part of 'the look', I think, once you reach a certain age.
Very nice RFK pictures, thank-you.
I think Peck looks more Yankee than southern in that picture. Remember, this is not a photo of an actual person; this is a photo of Hollywood in 1962 dressing a man to look like a southerner in 1932 *but* trying to make him look good *and* enlightened *and* smart.
So they gave him contemporary (for the time) frames, which have "New England" written all over them, and which also say "intellectual", a white suit (which does suggest the south), and a vest plus pocketwatch, which suggests "old fashioned gentleman". (I do have to wonder how many men in non-airconditioned southern alabama actually wore vests in the 30's, particularly when they were in crowded and presumably very hot courtrooms.)
I do think that Atticus looked great in the movie, but I don't think he's a good example of "southern trad" (whatever that is).
(For people who have seen the movie, there is an earlier scene where the judge comes and asks Atticus to defend Tom Robinson. The judge is wearing a baggy white suit, *I think* poplin or linen, very wrinkled, very loose fitting - this is probably accurate for that time, place, and season. Unfortunately, to modern eyes it looks sort of ... slovenly.)
I'll disgree that seersucker is an east coast thing - when I was growing up (and before), it was very common in Kentucky, which is not at all on the east coast. I suspect it was also pretty common in TN, MS, and AL, although I'm not certain of that. Maybe it's an east coast and southeastern thing...
Wally Cox (Trad must run in the Cox family), actor and comedian.
Wally was known to be quite the ladies man.
Wally and Marlon Brando were lifelong best friends since nine years of age.
Wally died young(heart attack at 48) and Marlon took it hard, never getting over it. He carried Wally's ashes with him, wherever he went, for the rest of his life.