Are collegiate sweatshirts Trad?

Discussion in 'Andy's Trad Forum' started by Conservative87, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. Conservative87

    Conservative87 New Member

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    Was looking through Take Ivy again and noticed a lot of college crewneck sweatshirts paired with wheat jeans or khakis and penny loafers
     
  2. TKI67

    TKI67 Senior Member

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    Sure, for scraping and painting the boat when it’s 55 F or less. Wear the old pair of Sperrys that are too slick for sailing and a ratty pair of khakis.

    ;0)
     
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  3. At Law

    At Law Senior Member

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    Absolutely.
    I wear them all the time in the winter with jeans/chinos and pennies or tassels.

    I always wear them with an OCBD under them--typically white or light blue.

    I have sweatshirts from my Alma Mater Creighton University and have a couple from schools I like and support--like Georgetown.
     
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  4. Fading Fast

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    As you noted, "Take Ivy" provides historical evidence that they were and there is an incredible amount of additional pictorial, TV and movie evidence as well that regular Americans - college and non-college students, dads on the weekend, families on vacations, etc. - wore sweatshirts (college logo or not) with jeans and chinos and boat shoes, pennies, sneakers, etc., for casual activities in the '40-'60s (even some from the '30s).
     
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  5. SG_67

    SG_67 Connoisseur

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    Sorry....couldn’t help myself.
     
  6. milestones

    milestones Starting Member

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    If you're in college, sure, or shortly after graduating, but I wouldn't wear them much after that, unless you're watching sports or at an alumni event or something like that. A plain crewneck in cotton or wool has the same look but a little more "adult", in my opinion.
     
  7. xcubbies

    xcubbies Super Member

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    Yeah, but make it look like your outfit was thrown together without any thought.
     
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  8. FLMike

    FLMike Connoisseur

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    Well, technically, it kind of depends on the college.
     
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  9. Fading Fast

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    That's a good point, but also raises a question - at least for me - about the difference between Trad and Ivy.

    IMHO (and I mean that, I am no expert), I think of Ivy clothes as those that gained acceptance at the ten or so Ivy colleges in the '50s through the pre-late-'60s, but also the clothes those graduates are most associated with wearing when they entered the work world in the '50s and pre-late-'60s.

    When I think of Trad clothing, I think it's a wider universe that includes the clothes most college (any college) kids and younger people in the '30s - pre-late-'60s wore - and as above - at college and when they entered the work world. Trad is more "just classic American" clothing to me.

    Hence, Ivy is a subset of Trad. I'm not saying the above are perfect definitions, just some ideas I keep in my head to, for example, say that pleated trousers or a bomber jacket can be Trad, but not Ivy.
     
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  10. TKI67

    TKI67 Senior Member

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    You expressed that beautifully. Also in my experience devotees of Ivy and its more youthful counterpart, prep, were more rigid than American style Trad dressers. If you showed up at a school event at certain places wearing a Pendleton Topster, a Rooster tie, or shoes, even longwings, other than Weejuns you were viewed as tipping into counterculture!
     

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