Flanderian

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Did a couple more scans, but for some reason, they didn't come out as well.

But as intended, they still illustrate my central assertion regarding the original Paul Stuart.

As a retiree, I rarely find myself dressing up to a level of formality such as once was common for business or more formal social events. But if one sometimes enjoys wearing a tie, it need not always be a more formal manner. More sporting options exist as are shown in the page I posted earlier.

Paul Stuart still does ad layouts involving lots of color and pattern, but I'm afraid I find many of them crude imitations of the kaleidoscopic virtuosity with which they once employed the classic lexicon.


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Scan doesn't show it as well as the printed page does, but I still think it's brilliant harmonizing of pattern and color. Should you wear it? Probably not. Would I? Maybe 20 years ago before entering senility. ;) But brilliant none-the-less. Walking an aesthetic tight-rope wire!

And when it was time for more sober attire, Paul Stuart did that equally well, and just as elegantly. To some degree I find the present Stuart less adroit, sometimes, crude.


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Fading Fast

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Did a couple more scans, but for some reason, they didn't come out as well.

But as intended, they still illustrate my central assertion regarding the original Paul Stuart.

As a retiree, I rarely find myself dressing up to a level of formality such as once was common for business or more formal social events. But if one sometimes enjoys wearing a tie, it need not always be a more formal manner. More sporting options exist as are shown in the page I posted earlier.

Paul Stuart still does ad layouts involving lots of color and pattern, but I'm afraid I find many of them crude imitations of the kaleidoscopic virtuosity with which they once employed the classic lexicon.


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Scan doesn't show it as well as the printed page does, but I still think it's brilliant harmonizing of pattern and color. Should you wear it? Probably not. Would I? Maybe 20 years ago before entering senility. ;) But brilliant non-the-less. Walking an aesthetic tight-rope wire!

And when it was time for more sober attire, Paul Stuart did that equally well, and just as elegantly. To some degree I find the present Stuart less adroit, sometimes, crude.


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Great stuff - thank you for taking the time to scan.

As we've chatted about before, I think the current PS has more conservative / traditional clothes in the store than you'd be led to believe from the ads, catalog and window displays, all of which show its boldest colors and fashions.

For whatever reason - my guess, PS is trying to drive younger customers to the store and, assume, the regulars know they have the classics, but who knows - the advertising, et al. is not representative of the full line of merchandise.
 

Flanderian

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Great stuff - thank you for taking the time to scan.

As we've chatted about before, I think the current PS has more conservative / traditional clothes in the store than you'd be led to believe from the ads, catalog and window displays, all of which show its boldest colors and fashions.

For whatever reason - my guess, PS is trying to drive younger customers to the store and, assume, the regulars know they have the classics, but who knows - the advertising, et al. is not representative of the full line of merchandise.
You are very welcome!

And I have no doubt you are correct concerning the store offering better options. But it's a pity if caviar decides it wants to look like tuna salad.

And as a marketeer, it makes me ask the question, if I want to try to look just like Suitsupply, why would the market I'm trying to exploit not just shop there instead?
 

Matt S

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You are very welcome!

And I have no doubt you are correct concerning the store offering better options. But it's a pity if caviar decides it wants to look like tuna salad.

And as a marketeer, it makes me ask the question, if I want to try to look just like Suitsupply, why would the market I'm trying to exploit not just shop there instead?
A couple brands have told me that their goal was to look like Bonobos. Brands wants to emulate success or popularity, not model themselves after inspirational brands.
 

Flanderian

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A couple brands have told me that their goal was to look like Bonobos. Brands wants to emulate success or popularity, not model themselves after inspirational brands.
Yup, the rush to the bottom!

Also-ran's imitate, market leaders innovate, educate and elevate!


 

rockstar57

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Isn't Paul Stuart made by Samuelsohn now? Why not take advantage of their MTM program which is usually cheaper than a RTW PS?
 

Matt S

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Isn't Paul Stuart made by Samuelsohn now? Why not take advantage of their MTM program which is usually cheaper than a RTW PS?
The quality may be the same, but the cuts and styles are different, as is the selection of fabrics.
 

SG_67

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Isn't Paul Stuart made by Samuelsohn now? Why not take advantage of their MTM program which is usually cheaper than a RTW PS?
Ready to wear Paul Stuart starts at a pretty reasonable price point.

Also, as MattS mentioned, the cut and overall style will be different.

I know some here have experience with MTM Samuelsohn, but I’m willing to bet that with the premium fabrics that Paul Stuart offers, the price will be pretty much inline.
 

rockstar57

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Ready to wear Paul Stuart starts at a pretty reasonable price point.

Also, as MattS mentioned, the cut and overall style will be different.

I know some here have experience with MTM Samuelsohn, but I’m willing to bet that with the premium fabrics that Paul Stuart offers, the price will be pretty much inline.
Makes sense, but aside from fabrics, we are comparing Samuelsohn MTM with Paul Stuwart RTW, I assume Sammy should give a better fit?
 
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