Anton Trotoush

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Hello,
I have a pair of shoe trees.
But there is something wired, they fit my shoes but creat a push slightly above the lowest line of the shoe.
This push creat a very ugly wrinkles.
What is the causes of this?
It’s the case on tow pairs of shoes. Is the shoe tree the problem? Am I doing something wrong?
And is there a way to fix those wrinkles?
Thanks you all very much!
Anton.
 

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Flanderian

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That's really odd! Without being able to see the trees and observe how they fit in the shoes it's hard to speculate how that might be caused. I guess if the trees are poorly designed, or too large they might push enough to cause lateral creases, though I've never seen it.

A good pair of shoe trees should be unfinished wood. Be spring loaded and the right size. And should look something like this. (Note: Sizes are for U.S. shoe sizes.)

https://www.onecedarlane.com/product/st-paul-shoe-tree/


 
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SG_67

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May I ask what material the shoes are made of? More precisely, what type of hide?
 

SG_67

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Leather... don’t know the specifics. Is a “navy boots” shoes.
Thank you!!
Yes, leather. Just wondering if it was calfskin or perhaps lambskin.

Lambskin tends to be quite soft and far more flexible than calf. That’s why I asked. Perhaps the shoetrees are fine but the hide is just too soft.
 
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JBierly

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I think its a combination of the trees not being quite wide enough and the leather being very soft.
 

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Two questions: 1) What size are your shoes and 2) What size are the shoe trees?
 

Flanderian

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I think this might be the OP's shoe -

https://navyboot.com/de/en/men/shoes/derbyshoes-90/derby-lace-up-shoe-00012647_200

It states that the linings are calf, but does not specify the upper beyond "leather." The company is now Swiss, but given it's market price I doubt it's made in Switzerland. I would expect the upper to be some form of corrected grain cowhide.

The shoe has quite a bit of toe spring. I think the general shape and construction of the shoe may contribute. They have a lot of toe-spring, and if the trees are a bit large, and the last not ideal for their shape, might well contribute to the lateral creases. Looking at the OP's photos of the shoe, I note that the sole doesn't appear to lay flat now either, suggesting a very flexible shoe that isn't necessarilly going to hold its shape very well.

A better fitting, and better shaped pair of trees might help, but I'm not sure they would. I once had a pair of very lightly made Italian loafers that I distorted in a similar way using trees, even though the trees did fit. Those are the only footwear I've ever had that didn't benefit from trees, but apparently there are some combinations of materials and construction for which they're undesirable.
 
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